I have worn out several. Powders with a fast to medium burn rate are excellent choices for light target loads and midrange loads in the .44 Magnum. .44 Remington Magnum. This bullet was intended for .444 Marlin. Finding a load that is somewhat different than what you may find in another source is not completely uncommon. The Hornady 300-grain XTP was seated in its bottom crimp groove for an overall length of around 1.735 inches, which significantly increases powder capacity. One is for standard loads, the other for heavy-bullet, heavy-crimp loads. comprises a half-dozen mostly flatpoint or semiwadcutter cast bullets weighing from 165 to 240 grains. is extensive. The 25th Edition of the Hodgdon Data Manual states that, from a .44 Magnum revolver with a 7.5" barrel, 13.0 grains of HS6 powder will give a 200 grain JHP bullet a MV of 1197 fps and 15.5 grains of HS6 will give a MV of 1516 fps. One approach you can take is to use .44 Special loading data and load from the top. The 358091 is a 150 gr button nose WC with a crimp groove, looks similar to what I have. Discussion: Unique is about the best all around powder, but if you want a slower burning powder, I suggest 2400. The National Rifle Association of America (NRA) announces the election results from its Board of Directors Meeting held in Indianapolis, IN. The Bullseye load is very accurate with no recoil. Velocities are modest, typically ranging from 650 fps to around . The extremely wide meplat will definitely DO THE JOB if driven at a decent velocity and placed well. * However, when velocities reach 1,200 to 1,400 fps, a No. The author's favorite guns for the .44 Magnum are Smith & Wesson Model 29s of various vintages. So I ran with my 44 mag,Rifle and Pistol,and I can still reload them in the field, with this kit ! Propellants ranging from relatively fast-burning Clays to slow-burning 2400 work well in the .44 Mag. The same book lists 200 gr loads in the same velocity range, referring to Linotype or Lyman #2 alloy hardness. FTX in .44 mag saying that you must trim the case to make it fit. It gives me 1,411 fps out of the long barrels of those gun. That particular design is my favorite 310 gr .44 Magnum bullet (it has to be, Frank Siefer and I designed it and I got to shoot the first head of big game taken with it - a ten point white tail buck). Unless the powder manufacturer specifies a magnum primer, I stick with standard primers. 10/20/2011 12:59 pm. I loaded up 5 with 19 gr. I'm just getting back into reloading. Most S&W revolvers produced from 1955 through 1989 feature throats of around .431 to .433 inch, the same dimension found on almost all Ruger revolvers. These five bullets cover most of the applications for which a .44 Mag. Bug out bag ! 44 MAG: Assorted headstamps, mostly R-P and W-W. 7.0 grains of Bullseye. While I've been loading the .44 Magnum for many years, I have not spent as much time loading the heavyweights as others have. Return this item for free. For more information, go to. For lead bullets near 900-1,000 FPS, I recommend a GC (Gas Check), the little copper bottom on the lead bullet as below (5th item from left). Handy when in a tight situation or limited space! tturner53 wrote: Anybody using it in a .444 Marlin? I have shot it with AA No. Lee classic loaders are the best when you are on a budget, Reviewed in the United States on April 13, 2017. Reviewed in the United States on September 29, 2021. Comparatively slow-burning propellants provide the highest velocities with jacketed bullets weighing 240 to 300 grains. Hodgdon's Universal, HP6, HP7 and HP38 are good powders for this cartridge. I use the 200 gr as ideal for 44 Special, and you might consider the same for just target shooting with a 44 Magnum chambering. A much cleaner load is 9.5 grains of Titegroup, for 1,200 fps. H110 and Winchester 296 if reduced too much will cause inconsistent ignition. H110 is the spherical powder that screams "no wimps, please!", delivering top velocities with great accuracy in 44 Magnum, 454 Casull, 475 Linebaugh and the 460 and 500 S&W magnums. Maybe .45 ACP +P. For more information, go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov. Those plain-base bullets, such as the Rim Rock 200-grain Cowboy Hard Cast RNFP listed in the load chart, fired at about 1,100 f.p.s., will deposit a thin wash of lead fouling here and there in the bore after firing 20 shots or so. I love how its such great quality, compact and very affordable. JSP. SWC+GC, 265 gr. Case mouth rims do tend to thin after they have been belled and crimped a number of times. But there is only so much the gun, and the shooter, can take. To use a yet larger case, like the .44 mag . If the bullet makes the loaded round too long, it will not feed through the action. BulletsThe .44 Mag. 250 gr. If you choose to continue using our website, you consent to the use of our cookies, Lee Original Pro 1000 Shell Plates and Carriers, Lee Bullet Feed Kit / Lee Feed Dies & Fingers, .357 MAG/.38 SPECIAL/.38 S&W /.38 COLT NP, MINIE BULLET MOLD- IMPROVED MINIE - MODERN MINIE, Competition Pro Series Die Sets In Titanium Carbide, Hornady Cam Lock Bullet Puller and Collets, Hornady Lock-N-Load AP Progressive Shell Plates, Hornady Lock-N-Load Powder Measure and Accessories. and other smokeless cartridges were introduced. 9 and Alliant 2400 or Unique with excellent accuracy results in .44 magnum TC Contender and S&W M-29. Survival Man , got one of these? Shadow Systems of Plano, Texas, designs and manufactures premium components and complete semi-automatic pistols based on the Glock Safe Action design. In the past couple of decades, heavyweight 280- to 340-grain cast bullets have become popular due to their outstanding penetration and shock qualities, but bear in mind that many older guns will not have a tall enough front sight to allow proper sight in. As the .44 Magnum is a new (relatively speaking) cartridge, the dimensions were strictly laid down from the beginning. A table is included showing variances in throat dimensions. When I was offered a drum of HP-38 by a retiring reloader, I looked into loading data for it. I would back off John Taffins load by no more than 1 gr to start based on the strength of your frame and gun. This limited production Smith & Wesson Model 29-3 commemorated Keith and his contributions. If you want a softer load, the .44 Special data tops out at 7.5 grains of N-320 for 1,033 fps. The same PF can be gained by launching a 180-grain JHP to 1,200 fps, something no .45 ACP +P load achieves. of energy. Your recently viewed items and featured recommendations. 680 IS THE SCARRY PERFORMER. In a pair of S&W 83/8 .44 Magnums, this load clocks out at about 1,067 fps with 7/8 groups. In studying the engineering of the cylinders (bolt notch depth, etc.) I have used the same loading as above, 21.5 of 296 or h110. When it first came out, there were dire warnings that you could injure yourself shooting a full-power magnum. In a 4-inch gun I can get 1,284 fps, and in an 8-inch gun I can stretch that to 1,321 fps. (Cowboy Action) 38 Special (Cowboy Action) 38-40 Win. 4275 County Rd U, Hartford WI, 53027, USA, Selecting the right die set for your needs. The availability of a variety of powders with differing burn rates was a relatively new development when it appeared in the 1920s. SWC, 240 gr. containers. The real Keith bullet remains widely popular and is Lyman mould 429421, which features three full-caliber driving bands, a square grease groove and weighs 250 grains (solid). I do NOT have any pressure tested data. I have a lee pro 1000 for ammo I use plenty of 9mm and 38 special. Before loading a quantity of ammunition with bullets seated out for a given gun, load a dummy cartridge to be certain that combination will chamber. SWC+GC, 265 gr. To prevent exposure, do not alter the product by welding, grinding, etc. The powder of choice for magnum lead shotshell loads 10, 12, 16 and 20 gauge. The SAAMI ceiling for the .44 Magnum is 36,000 psi. Not responsible for accuracy and safety but the data has been confirmed by me in my findings to be legit and cut from original Taffin Article. PropellantsPenny-pinching is a major reason to shoot cast lead alloy and swaged lead bullets at low velocities. It is also the top end of what I would subject a Smith & Wesson revolver to. The loading manuals do not have a lot of data on powder-puff loads for the .44 Magnum. I could shoot it out of a Smith." This bullet weighs 340 grains. Jacketed bullets generally measure .429 inch (Nosler, Speer, Barnes, Swift), .4295 inch (Sierra) and .430 inch (Hornady and Cutting Edge). of blackpowder, the .44-40 . Lee Loader is a complete reloading system, kit includes everything needed to reload 44 Mag. Silhouette shooters claim it is the most accurate 44 powder they have ever used. It is extremely important to note that the powder measures ("powder scoops" or "dippers") can vary depending on the year the set was made. Use cases that are of one lot number and trimmed to a uniform length. 24.0 gr. The comparison or power between the 357mag and the .44 mag was significant. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. PLEASE FORGIVE THE LATE NIGHT BRAINFART. This ammo is for cartridge size .44 Remington Magnum +P+. Handloading the .44 is straightforward; about the only extra step I take is to trim cases every so often. Recommend buying case lube for this item. Your bigger deer will probably still get knocked cleanoff their feet with this big ole bullet. This is not recommended for semi, pump and lever action guns. Lack of expansion on game is one criticism of some .44 bullets. from my slightly softer than #2 Lyman alloy. Without enough pressure to expand the case to a tight seal, gas blowback can come between the case and chamber walls, creating the carbon coat. The expander ball should measure at least .004 inch smaller than bullet diameter to help achieve proper bullet pull. Unable to add item to List. - - - Below, are two loaded rounds. I found that, for all intents and purposes, HP-38 and WW-231 are the same, so I've loaded that ever since. Messages. | References: Accurate Arms Co. 1996 Reloading booklet - - Alliant Powder Co. Reloaders' Guide (1995) - - Hodgdon's Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) - - Speer Reloading Manual, #12 - - Winchester Reloading Components Manual, 14th edition - - Lyman Piston & Revolver Reloading Handbook, 2nd edition. And finally, he exceeded the pressure limits of the .44 Special, something he could do only because of the greater strength of the Smith & Wesson revolvers he was using. In the longer Magnum case, 7.5 grains and a 180 Hornady delivers 959 fps out of my 4-inch Model 29. about how much for a starting load? A full-power .44 Magnum load is a serious hunting load. Great Western Frontier revolvers were built on the same frame size as the Colt SAA. This database has 6400 loads for cast bullet loads. Don't have the book in front of me, but the Lyman #49 manual has data for a similar weight bullet in several cartridges. I have a deep respect for its usefulness and many virtues. ber throats with odd diameters is exceedingly small. The rifle-only approach of neck sizing for greater accuracy (something even rifle shooters have abandoned) is not relevant or useful for the handgun. At its 925-fps velocity, the load just makes major for USPSA/IPSC shooting, the cost in powder is cheap, and the bullet shape is conducive to quick reloading. Win 680 buddy (correction from 296). Thats about all that can be expected of the .44. . (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start.) Jacketed bullets create a bit more wear on the rifling, but it's better than trying to wire brush out a bunch of lead build up. When you're launching a 300-grain bullet past 1,200 fps, you want to keep the margin available in case of trouble, not use it to generate a few more . Item still holds up after a couple of years and probably will last forever. Revolver number S147220 was shipped to Keith in January 1956. The bullets range from the 270-grain Speer Gold Dot to the Hornady 300-grain XTP and Oregon Trail's 310-grain Trueshot. With a hard-cast bullet, you'll probably find your load exiting the far side of an elk. I recently got my first 44 magnum and dies and bullets for it. It seemed to do the best for me with 21 grains of H-110 . accuratepowder.com. 8 x 56 Mannlicher Load Data 10/20/2011 1:03 pm Loading Data; 300 AAC Blackout Load Data 11/01/2017 10:31 am Loading Data; Rifle Dies; 45 ACP large primer load data vs. small primer load data 02/20/2012 8:27 am Loading Data; Powder Handling; Reloading Dies; 45 ACP; 45 ACP small primers Reaction score. The CBA is a international organization of shooters who enjoy casting and shooting lead alloy bullets for competition, hunting, experimenting, and casual shooting. 1.600 in. A very pleasant everyday load is assembled with Oregon Trail's 240 SWC over 18.5 grains of #4227. In the late 1970s you could walk into more than one gunshop and buy a Smith & Wesson M29 that had been fired a grand total of six times. SAFETY DATA SHEET. And in so doing, he embarrassed the ammunition- and handgun-makers into realizing what a great cartridge they had been overlooking. My time was spent with Hodgdon and Vihtavouri powders. For top accuracy, bullets should be seated to their listed cartridge overall length (COAL), then the crimp applied as a separate step. 32 S&W Long (Cowboy Action) 32-20 Win. Make a New Load . It can also be used effectively in rifle cartridges, like the 30-06, so it's a good one to have for the magnum pistol loads and for rifle. FWIW, Paul. . Incidentally, the MAP has been changed to 36,000 psi. Revolver, single shot? A brief discussion of .44 Magnum revolvers seems prudent in regard to handloads. First to compete with S&W was Great Western Arms with its SAA pattern Frontier Model .44 Magnum in early 1956. Originally loaded with 40 grs. If a particular gun is prone to leading, switching to a gas check design will usually correct that issue. Interestingly, the .44 Special was introduced in 1907/1908 in the first S&W N-Frame revolver, The .44 Hand Ejector 1st Model, or more commonly known as New Century or Triple Lock. Principal Purpose: Magnum shotshell loads, 10, 12, 16, 20 and 28 ga. 12 BHN alloy. Reviewed in the United States on November 24, 2018. I know for a fact that a hard-cast bullet pushed along at "only" 1,000 fps can penetrate and exit a 36-inch-deep stack of ballistic-gelatin blocks. Beretta's new APX A1 Carry shows that this historic brand is still competingin the modern market. of Alliant's Power Pistol. You can expect more than 1,300 fps out of an 8-inch barrel, just about 1,300 from a 6 and a very noisy 1,275 fps from a 4-inch barrel with that load (and a bunch of unburned powder). When the correct load is chosen (especially the bullet), it is capable of taking heavy game. I recently bought some lil gun but have not tried any loading with it yet, my basement is tore up to start finishing, now that got pushed back till spring. We also offer to analytics services (Google Analytics) information on how you use our site. Many range reloading and chronographing sessions for other calibers can last hours and have me launching hundreds of rounds over the screens. of Herco under a 429421 lyman a good load & boolit for what needs shootin!!! tturner53 wrote: Anybody using it in a .444 Marlin? It delivers 1,056 fps out of a 4-inch M29 and is not painful to shoot. .44 Magnum.41 Remington Magnum.460 S&W Magnum.38 Special.327 Federal Magnum.357 SIG . HP, .44 with 225 gr. The word enjoyable, though, really best sums it up, so excuse me while I head out with my .44 in hand to put some lead back into the ground from where it came. The SAAMI specs call for a limit on the .44 Magnum of 36k psi (40k CUP). I am hoping you indicate that it was like the animal was s**ked to the earths surface violently without even a twitch on impact. To be clear there are no +P .44 Magnum loads. With the exception of notations, the accuracy testing was conducted with a S&W 629-4 Classic DX with a 6-inch barrel, which qualifies as a super accurate sixgun. Target loads for IHMSA and NRA Hunter pistol employ Red dot and Promo. It deserves a spot on the list of stack-and-a-half micro 9 millimeters. To prevent exposure, do not alter the product by welding, grinding, etc. You can start at 44 Special loads and increase by 1/10th grain increments to find a good load. Since everyone was trying to load to the maximum, there was little data except for slow-burning powders. Alliant Powder company "Add 50 percent more powder just to get 100 fps?" R*E*A*L Bullet for Muzzleloaders; ROUND BALL MOLDS; Combo Molds; . Aug 5, 2013. This means that every time you visit this website you will need to enable or disable cookies again. Mine runs around 318 grs. What was significant was that he was first, and he was a thorough experimenter who learned from his mistakes. From the April 1973 American Rifleman magazine, read about an artifact once owned by King Louis XIII that sold at a record-setting auction price for the time. Have a question? as well as metallurgy, I suggest limiting pressures to 25,000 psi, or 30,000 psi maximum. Out of a 7.5-inch Ruger, it will deliver 1,311 fps for an impressive 406 PF. Comfortable load to shoot, accurate, very dirty, low pressure signs. No deer were lost and neither did any require a second shot. I use gas checks and size .430 lubed with 50/50 alox & beeswax. Left to right:-- 250 gr. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. Its meplat measures .285 to .290 inch, and the nose is around .420 inch long while the total bullet length is .774 inch. It is even more flexible when it can benefit from the lengthened sight radius of a long gun, which allows for a more precise aim, and a longer barrel that increases velocity to improve the cartridges range. and max @ 12.0 gr. May not work so well in yours . Notes: Large pistol primer. I would suggest starting around 18 grains and coming up SLOWLY ! Have not tried it on game, but the profile suggests great killing power with the right placement. IMR 3031 and IMR 4895 are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. Left to right:-- 250 gr. ATN used SHOT Show 2023 as an opportunity to unveil both the fifth generation of its digital-night-vision technology and the first of the companys new products to put it to usethe day/night-capable X-Sight 5. 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