Thanks Don! So you could run say a 60' Baggage with a 70' Rivarossi (if you can find one) or 72' Athearn coach or two in a train. Just an educated guess. I thought the original trucks looked good enough to use, although for a time IHC offered a better quality replacement truck that was very nicely detailed, but also with 31" metal wheelsets. But even more recently, a resurrected Rivarossi (under new outside control), has brought back the coach and combine as a limited run item (see ads in MR). The wheel flanges are not pizza cutter type. The roofs may, or maynot, have been either black, 'pullman green', or 'dark green truckenamel'. You live in Skagit County and are calling FIFE SCENIC? On the 22" line and they ran through a number of turnouts fine both forward and backward. They are slightly overscale in height and width. Railway: DB. $60.00 + $18.00 shipping. I am a truck driver, and my company has a resident driver based in Fife. Merged into another company (Rapido??). down hill naturally !! Notes: * In the 50th Anniversary (1988) Rivarossi Catalog a model 9902 3 Pack is also listed. Some Rivarossi cars come with interior details, but most of my pre-used ones didn't. The Proto Budd RPO is 65'. One of the baggage rpo cars and the duplex sleeper were definitely PRR. . New layout and passenger cars; New layout and passenger cars. I painted a lot of undecorated figures, although not Mel-quality. These were the last cars made by Rivarossi before they went bankrupt, too bad as they were well finished and tracked well. "Publius Quinctilius Varo - give me back my legions" - Augustus Caesar after Varo lost 3 legions in the Teutoburg Forest, 9AD, Germania.AHM / Rivarossi Instructions - Literature Page 32. I have 3 coaches and a baggage car. This product has been discontinued by The Western Depot and is limited to the quantity on hand. A railroad had to bemighty big to get Pullman to specially paint Pullman cars for a specifictrain. But it did take on a greenish cast under some weathering and lighting conditions. He says it is HO. They are advertised to handle 18 inch curves, and they do. In coaches in the 70ft 0in size range is series 2395 to 2399 inclusive where are diagrammed as 60ft 4.5 in interior length, 61ft 2in over end sills, 69ft 0in over platforms, & 70ft 3 and 3/4 inches over buffers. (To keep the clasp brakes, 33" wheels would work without interference). These HO scale cars can run on a radius as small as 18 inches allowing them to run on compact layouts. Pennsylvania Railroad's 1960s The General -- Deluxe Edition Consist #2 - 13 Cars 920-829 Advanced Reservation Availability: Sold Out Expected: 01-Feb-2024 HO Scale $1,535.00 View Product Add to Wishlist HO Scale WalthersProto Pennsylvania Railroad's 1960s The General -- Deluxe Edition Washington Section - 3 Cars 920-830 Advanced Reservation The HO versions were the same cars. O SCALE AHM RIVAROSSI 4 CAR BOXED PASSENGER CAR SET-C-9-used-Original Boxes! Rivarossi 2709 US Passenger Car New York Central Gauge H0 Unrecorded Boxed | Collectables, Model Railways & Trains, Railways & Trains | eBay! VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I was running quite slow backwards if that makes any difference. Free shipping for many products! While the models' detailing may match nobody's actual car, the 60 foot length certainly does - for instance, the floor plan I'm looking at right now for L&N "Mail cars 1106 to 1112 including 1114". The stock was limited and sold out rather quickly. Rivarossi & Custom HO Scale Passenger Cars [5], Passenger Car Interior KIT for the IHC/Rivarossi Corrugated-Side Observation Car. Con Cor advises those interested to enter reserve orders. Charlie, are you happy with the way they roll with replacement wheels in the old trucks? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Body mounting any 60' car should not be much problem once 'coupler height' has been dealt with. Shop online for over 600 ho scale model train passenger cars at discounts up to 38%. Once there was a time when about 90% of my passenger fleet was the Rivarossi-made, imported by AHM, cars. The C420 sold by Rivarossi was the old MRC/Lima one, and did run well. No 96 RAF Blue - Matt 2.69. Deutsche Bahn, RhB, SBB, und BB Modelleisenbahn, http://www.modeltrainforum.com/showthread.php?t=22525. Previous topic - Next topic. The coupler box "swing arm" is well supported too, which will avoid coupler droop. I am looking at getting a four car set of rivarossi heavyweight passenger cars in GN livery. I am getting a four car set of 60 foot cars. Espee used dark olive which was not Pullman green. I run them both straight out of the box with their horn hook couplers, and also heavily detailed and modified to include body mounted Kadee couplers. C-415 Build: https://imageshack.com/a/tShC/1, Other builds: https://imageshack.com/my/albums. I bought a set from the same vendor a couple of weeks ago. The assembled structure measures 5. Hi. Rivarossi 60' Passenger Cars: Anything other than Coaches coming? Too bad they're not running undecs (yet?) I'm looking forward to these cars, specifically the RPO and the baggage. I painted the red stripe thru the windows using a rattle can. They are true horses. If I add enought weight will they stay on the rails? The ones you're getting are completely different. Always enjoyable seeing passenger car topics popping up. Yves The Pocher factory was in Turino, Italy and the RivaRossi factory in Como, Italy. Everyday trains got Pullman Green. PremierName trains got the pretty paint. I have some vague recollecction the coach was Soo Line but no longer recall why I think that. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, All photos I recall of similar ATSF cars were "Pullman" green, as were CB&Q cars through WWII. 1) Specifically, what engine would be used to pull the ATSF or the Burlington version?2) Was the ATSF version [prototype] and the Burlington version [prototype] really the same green color, or did Rivarossi simply choose a color and apply it to both roadnames?3) What era [time frame] is suitable for these 60' passenger cars? They came without lights but they did have empty rows of seats. The Walthers/Rivarossi cars are/were available in four types - Utility Coach and Utility Combine, based on CNW 60' cars, and RPO and Baggage cars. I believe the many of the RPOs and baggage cars survived into the 1960s. Only thing I'd point out is they have body mounted couplers; the coupler boxes do allow for a fair amount of lateral swing, but if you bought them figuring they would work well on tight curves (like 18" radius) you might be disappointed. Raised on the Erie Lackawanna Mainline- Supt. ModelRailroadForums.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to amazon.com. I will have a lot more questions soon. First(and only)place on the right. Horn-hook couplers were truck mounted on long bars for trainset curves. I bought Walthers lighting kits, which included new trucks with metal wireframes. I don't use diaphragms, and they didn't come with any. Guess I'll stick with the Rivarossi's. They appear to be updates of the 40 year old Walthers metal-sided "Shorty" passenger cars. They came with both horn hooks and knuckle couplers and I can't remember which were mounted when I got them. Not inexpensive, $130 IIRC. They had no lighting and only a bare set of interior seats. I don't know how they are going to look behind a cab forward or something like that but a nice 4-6-0 or 4-4-2 would look right at home pulling them. I discovered they they meant 18, not 17 3/4, when I checked one flex-track curve. They combine plastic and various metal parts and turn into gorgeous museum quality models, with a lot of care. When installed on IHC and Rivarossi passenger cars, these diaphragms will fill that 'non-scale' space between passenger cars without affecting their 18" turning radius. The RPO and Baggage were also approximate 60' size. Due Early December, 2022. The Set A and Set B are OK cars. This is Rivarossi's postal/express baggage car, altered a bit to better ressemble a CNR prototype. Note: All prices in US Dollars Billboard Posters 1940-1960 Price i'm a big kid right now.. going to open them up and get some pics. since i could adjust the coupler height as i went. Regardless of railroad. There were also 60 ft heavyweight sets packaged in both the Walthers and Rivarossi labels, the 60' cars came in a wide variety of railroad names as well. I have been having trouble with Con-Cor horn-hook couplers. HO Scale Athearn HO 84857 50' Old Time Overland Passenger Car Set, Great Northern #1 (4) SKU: ATH-84857. Car & Truck Safety & Security Accessories, Passenger Car Interior KIT for Rivarossi 85ft Heavy-Weight DINER [ HO ]. To my knowledge, neither the ATSF or CB&Q used 60' heavyweight combines or coaches. It's a bit hard to see in the pics if they're celestory or not but they seem to be rounded. Close, maybe, Really correct, no. If so, sounds great. I have an old NYC Hudson that runs great and will also run on code 83 track after I turned down the flanges with my dremel and stone wheel. This product has been discontinued by the manufacturer and is limited to the quantity on hand. Saw some late in the day at the Timonium train show. For years, the BB kits were a staple of the hobby and I think it's a shame the line has been let go. You can go with Train Station Products trucks for your Rivarossi units. Originally 7247, 7248 and 7240 of 7240-7249 series. May your flanges always stay BETWEEN the rails. I have ten Rivarossi heavyweight passenger cars I run with a A/B set of Athearn PAs. It did require shaving away some of the cast on brake shoes but with care you can shave away enough to retain the "look" of the shoes yet let the wheels turn freely. Bachmann & Rivarossi HO Scale Assorted Passenger Cars [6] EX. After upgrades, they look good and run well on my layouts. Body mounting Kadee couplers is doable. They have truck-mounted couplers for operation on sharp curves. That shop sounds like my kind of place. Looking at these cars, the couplers are body, not truck mounted, BUT the couplers are mounted on a swinging arm, which allows more travel in addition to the normal coupler movement. While I had the shells off for lighting, I painted the interior and added some passengers. By todays standards they are average. 2) ''Modern'' or''OldTime''passenger cars? I made bronze axle wipers to pick up juice. I've been doing some reading and have learned that most people replace the wheels and or trucks. A railroad had to be mighty big to get Pullman to specially paint Pullman cars for a specific train. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Free delivery for many products! Rivarossi NYC Passenger Car Taken Apart John Bellucci 5K subscribers 3.4K views 7 years ago I made this video for all of those who own some of the older style passenger cars out there,. The dealer claims they can run on 18 inch radius. Thanks. on each end seems to work fine. Thanks Don! 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A lot of work but I wanted to keep the car for whatever reason. I think Rivarossi even captured the blanked out windows of the original. Le migliori offerte per Vintage HO Train Car - Rivarossi Burlington Northern Dome Passenger Car #357 sono su eBay Confronta prezzi e caratteristiche di prodotti nuovi e usati Molti articoli con consegna gratis! The wood coaches would not be out of place if you are modeling the '30's-40's. In general they aren't as good as current Bachmann and previous Bachmann Spectrum cars. The baggage appears to be a newer heavyweight than the Rivarossiheavyweight baggage and has lines more typical of the 60-foot(+/-)baggage cars which lasted in service into the 1960s and 1970s than theRivarossi model. The old AHM / Rivarossi cars didn't have interiors, but the later Rivarossi "red box" ones from the 1990's did. To my knowledge, neither the ATSF or CB&Q used 60' heavyweight combines orcoaches. Fetters and Alco worked together to develop . Do they use European-style Have some questions about these new "ACF coaches." Should I look for metal ones made by IHC or are there other suitable, less expensive options. What's WORSE, paint formula records indicate that real 'pullman green' wasn't GREEN at all. Where I disagree is that their diesels weren't any good. The Rivarossi RPO's are 60-footers. Took about an hour of carefull work as to not get the metal rims to hot. I got a set of the 60 footers around 20 years ago, maybe longer. The 60' commuter cars were replaced and scrapped as the 85' bi-level cars began being delivered in 1956. Rivarossi 1920's HWT Passenger Car LACKAWANNA Ho Scale KEVIL. Between these cars and the upcoming Branchline coaches (actually shown at the RPM meet in Cocoa Beach last weekend! Well, that's another story. Regardless of railroad. . I own many of them. Reg Price: $60.99. The book Union Pacific Streamliners . I kept the stock trucks but switched to knuckle couplers (I forgot what number). On the cars pictured below I replaced the stock Rivarossi "Pizza Cutter" wheels with Proto 2000 36" wheel sets. There is a newer set of 4 cars that are 60' long. . However, if you prefer to keep the factor Rivarossi trucks, metal wheel replacements seem to work fine on them. Rivarossi 60' RPO car. it is your call, but i would try the 33 inch wheel sets in one car and see if i was happy with that. PRR had so much stuff> there may be some hope there. Add paints to basket Free delivery for many products. MDC Roundhouse made some 60 ft. Harriman passenger cars. CNW used some as smokers on commuter trains for example. There was a later series of cars dating from the late 1980s that were around 60 feet long. really, they roll great. So the first and biggest question is 1) Do they stay on the rails now? They come with or without interiors. You must log in or register to reply here. My. Ho RIVAROSSI 4-6-2 " Light Pacific" C.B.&Q #462 BURLINGTON ROUTE Nice! 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