0000109981 00000 n Crown CP (final black powder proof for the smooth bored muzzle loader barrels. Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to acknowledge the testing - called "Proof Marks". 0000005702 00000 n 0000099472 00000 n Specifications: Manufacturer -- Fusav di Bini & Baronio (Italy) Date Code -- "AD" = 1978 date of manufacture Barrel Markings: Left side -- 36 Cal. xref 1810 - 1853. M855 Green Tip. There used to be an odd-duck that came about several ways. 0000003452 00000 n 0000009076 00000 n You are using an out of date browser. I have not been able to locate an authoritative resource 0000051585 00000 n 0000036933 00000 n 0000143308 00000 n $399.00. 35 0 obj <> endobj Black powder proof for rifles and shotguns. Flog?5BnS'Vz] Wd;No$wBj2O56~N)T%D-69_f)Bl[RfU[aSV. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Double proof as prescribed by the French law of 1810. I wonder what the odds of a real Walker turning up in Switzerland are? Starting price $499. r2 e< 1{Vk)} 1970 = XXVI. 0000096938 00000 n The polished brass trigger guard and walnut grips hold true to tradition. I never saw it extended to 2030! The gun is a good shooter but the hammer comes down solid on the nipples, enough that the hammer isn't fully down. In some cases this cipher is also preceded by the figures 16, and followed by a capital B., also surmounted by a crown. 0000062418 00000 n (tr_WXvvL6Eu'}OI U-XY!A:Xnid~g,~:@ZP&kl$VsYA<5FTbf]0>okJ!wK9ae0 Lc#As;$'NS.7 5bUSGD}pzYVn5"I-6.K3obuGUQ,qe2F'.2sAI/.Dr\,:cyH=y39'vT-[ 6T 0000014575 00000 n It has on with a star above it and a shield with a star above it. The fifth a crown, with three crossed spikes set over a capital E. Other French towns had their special marks, such as It is possible that these shops did not have an Italian firearms manufacturers license and could not sell their products direct, so they were sold through other manufacturers who had a license. Knowledge of commonly used military ammunition assists Condition Grading Definitions For Antique Firearms, This website may not During the 1960s, 1970s, and even into the 1980s there was a bonanza market for these replica revolvers. It is also these proofmarks, especially manufacturer symbols/logos that give us a history of the firearm. C-96 (Broomhandle) Marlin Remington Ruger (& Factory Letters) Winchester U.S. Military Markings Gun Marks House Brands U.S. 0000055241 00000 n 1945 = 1. 0000078548 00000 n http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showforum.php?fid/131, https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/modern-replica-dating-by-proof-marks.49482/, Pietta Full Fluted Cylinder 1858 NMA Pistol Question. 0000074288 00000 n Inspectors WWII German Codes & Markings GUN MARKINGS Please enter the markings you want to research and click the submit button. In the picture below you can see first the year of manufacture "BM" indicating it was made in 1999. 0000057983 00000 n 0000002445 00000 n 0000008415 00000 n 1848 Dragoon Revolvers. Action Type: Percussion Black Powder Revolver. Hb``a``=P @1630i`@GDTVs(R {g i 23>`.0,p?PA! 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December 20, 2013 in SASS Wire, Here are the codes for knowing when your Italian-manufactured firearm was made (proof date), This is from an Italian shotgun Website: shotguns.se/html/italy.htm, http://www.dakotaskipper.net/ebay/Italian_Proof_Date_Codes_1945_-_2030.pdf. 1989 = AU. They went from BU to BZ 2004-05. An additional listing showing old PN in French does indeed mean Poudre Noire, but as most BP handguns we see these days are made in Italy then it stands for Polvere Nero - Italian for black powder. The lower right face of the octagonal barrel says, "A.S.M. . The fourth the crossed branches, with the letters S.E.E., and a cross in their angles. A great deal of painstaking research work is necessary before a list of armourers marks applied to pistols can be compiled, but I have every hope of preparing such a list at a future date when peace is restored in Europe and the great museum collections are accessible. Italian Proofmarks & Dates of Manufacture 1945 - 2030 By Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 December 20, 2013 in SASS Wire Start new topic Posted December 20, 2013 Here are the codes for knowing when your Italian-manufactured firearm was made (proof date) This is from an Italian shotgun Website: shotguns.se/html/italy.htm to share our findings by this means of communication. 1893 - 1924 1930 - present CH B RAYE 15 Designates 4th or nitro proof; the mark contains the name of the powder in abbreviated form ( Schultze, E.C.) 1851 Navy Engraved .44 Cal Nickel Black Powder Revolver. Italian Firearms Year of Manufacture Look Up. are cottage industry type weapons without a specific brand name. with this information in an attempt to clear up some wrong information ALL CAN BE SEEN IN THE P. on Jan 23, 2018. 0000141211 00000 n S. 0000010481 00000 n 0000096658 00000 n The previous owner kept it in a display in his gun room. To make purchases and use the full site services, register or login your account, Shooting accessories/Guns storage/Training, Immediate shipping on a all products listed, Contract - 5.56 x 45mm 62 Gr. 0000060740 00000 n 0000005921 00000 n trailer 1967 = XXIII. JavaScript is disabled. 0000077398 00000 n 1891 - present 16 Join Date: August 15, 2012. 1945 = 1. 0000078152 00000 n 0000057470 00000 n startxref I think it is a new Army 1858 but the Navy Arms on the top of barrel confuses me. endstream endobj 43 0 obj <> endobj 44 0 obj <>stream 0000134772 00000 n individual armorers and inspectors used their own unique stamps in some HT=0+ @|7IqE.sQ"$9>tB}vUe&iF=P[mEjo(lHBRAu)0u^Y_8Ii)uLBAo*3 3SL*l4r_g[#}eF9ihFCym>s@MRFzaVLz8 Some of these markings are COM, the Double Diamond Logo, PR, MOFRA and others as assembled below. startxref But I am starting to believe this is true. examiner must rely on proof marks when trying to identify these 0000029262 00000 n Marlin-Savage-Winchester THE AMERICAN SPIRIT. FEMALE PEOPLE, Tusco Long Riders, Brown Township Regulators, Firelands Peacemakers, Ohio Valley Vigilantes, Indiana Black Powder Guild, OOWSS, Umpqua Regulators, Siuslaw River Rangers, RUCAS, Jefferson State Regulators, Klamath Cowboys, Wolverton Mt. Italian Gun Manufactures Proof Marks & Dates 41 2 comments Best Add a Comment csaduck 4 yr. ago Many of us have Italian guns that were not quite sure of the date of manufacture, this is a list I got a few years ago (2003) and hope it helps out. 0000001156 00000 n 0000026203 00000 n It is usually a combination of heraldry and letters or logos, which need to be decoded in order to determine the actual manufacturer of the reproduction. 0000008224 00000 n August 19, 2012, 03:46 PM #10: Fingers McGee. It has the two proof marks and the letters PN but nothing else other than the serial number. It is becoming apparent that the major manufacturers used these shops as sub-contractors as a source of parts as well as complete revolvers for those distributors seeking cheaper and cheaper guns. That mark is the Italian proof mark for black powder, thus your gun is or Italian origin. 0000050678 00000 n 0000001896 00000 n date, serial number and property marks as well as various acceptance and 0000006260 00000 n 0000001338 00000 n 0000010518 00000 n black powder proof house stamping, and Gardone proof house stamping. 0000076880 00000 n PROOF MARK CIRCA PROOF HOUSE TYPE OF PROOF AND GUN since 1852 Belgium provisional black powder proof for breech loading guns and rifled barrels - - double proof marking for unfurnished . Year of Manufacture: 1997 (BI Date Code) Caliber: .44 Cal. Definitive proof applies to all weapons and shows that the weapon has been tested with an overcharge of propellant and missile. <<619EF975DD20A74ABA8163A7762AED27>]>> 0000009592 00000 n 0000000016 00000 n In now represents definitive black powder proof except for muzzle loaders 1893 - present 14 Designates guns with rifled chokes. The system of proof in Great Britain was as follows: In England, the second charter of the Gunmakers Company granted in 1672 marked the beginning of the official proving of arms, but it did not apply to weapons made elsewhere in the Kingdom, provided they were not offered for sale in the London market. Usually, these replicas are made by companies such as Uberti or Pietta, but smaller, lesser known Italian companies often make these as well. EMF Company, Inc. 1900 East Warner Ave. +J+J+J+J4+J4+Ji4F`4F`4fCg~1x:4lCC6a` ? ? These guns will also have the "NP" mark. It has a Naval scene roll marked on the cylinder. Measuring the bore diameter and chamber From time to time, new data becomes available that corrects previous information found to be incorrect based on what was known at the time. <<421B3FD89E55944EA1FB205BE7ED37D9>]/Prev 780315>> since 1950 E. German, Suhl 1st black powder proof for smooth bored barrels since 1950 E. German, Suhl inspection mark since 1950 E. German, Suhl choke-bore barrel mark PROOF MARKS: GERMAN PROOF MARKS, cont. 0000115678 00000 n The two upper case letters or roman numerals in a box is the code for the year the firearm was proofed. 0000009920 00000 n Further changes were initiated, when smokeless powder necessitated more stringent conditions of proof. Fairly common in comparison, owners would have their favorite smokepole bored out instead of having the barrel re-rifled or "refreshed". 1946 = 2. and 20 Gauge. ITALIAN PROOF MARKS PrOOF mark CirCa PrOOF hOuse tYPe OF PrOOF and gun >RPo$Q2y4%TCpu352ji%:@"BHUSYX}n CQCY}B%I"T4~S-2 +{gzIE$Or}a;nY 98cjdi (1 D,)} Senior Member . below are samples of Proof Marks of different countries. endstream endobj 137 0 obj <> endobj 138 0 obj <>/Encoding<>>>>> endobj 139 0 obj <> endobj 140 0 obj <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB]/ExtGState<>>> endobj 141 0 obj <> endobj 142 0 obj <> endobj 143 0 obj <> endobj 144 0 obj <> endobj 145 0 obj <> endobj 146 0 obj <> endobj 147 0 obj <> endobj 148 0 obj <>stream I hope it will aid those seeking information on their black powder cap & ball reproduction revolvers. BICBWmaybe a call to PIetta or Uberti would solve the mystery?? I am stomped any information would be great. St. Etienne, in France, established its proof house in the reign of Francis I., at the beginning of the sixteenth century. Miscellaneous Proof Marks or I cant seem to find the exact one any where. Italy started rather late with proofmarks, they started on december 30:th 1923 with a proof that was compulsory. The "PN" are the initials for "polere nera" or black powder. Information, NRA 0000067226 00000 n You can choose to work with makers from Italy directly or contact distributors for a more varied assortment. Italian Firearms Year of Manufacture Look Up works for Beretta, Benelli and other Italian firearms. ITALIAN PROOF MARKS CIRCA PROOF HOUSE TYPE OF PROOF AND GUN since 1951 since 1951 since 1951 Brescia Gardone Gardone & Brescia provisional proof for all guns provisional proof for all guns definitive proof for guns with smokeless powder finish proof for firearms ready for sale 1st black powder proof since 1951 since 1951 Uberti cartridge revolvers are true replicas of original historical designs. By The flag is your country of origin and is that the Swiss flag? You are using an out of date browser. 0000003020 00000 n Included with the marks is a brief history of each of the manufacturers who made or are still making these replicas and the importers/distributors who imported these replicas based on what is currently known about them. Some of the tables stop at 2010 or so. The Italian proof test markings are three (see picture) The first one (two letters in a rectangle) represent the year of prooftesting. This "certifies" that each chamber was proofed at 8,800 psi with a 30% plus load. endstream endobj 36 0 obj <> endobj 37 0 obj <>/ColorSpace<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/ExtGState<>>>/Type/Page>> endobj 38 0 obj <> endobj 39 0 obj <> endobj 40 0 obj [/DeviceN[/Black]/DeviceCMYK 63 0 R 64 0 R] endobj 41 0 obj <> endobj 42 0 obj <>stream There were a good many very small family shops in the Gardone, Brescia area of Italy like MOFRA and others. SKU: FRS18511. It is available on the web from Adobe as a free download. 0000012886 00000 n This "certifies" that each chamber was proofed at 8,800 psi with a 30% plus load. Anyways, the modern stampings are needed to produce a legal firearm in Italy (black powder p [roof testing and overall firearm inspection proof for example) and to allow it to be exported/imported into the USA by a number of importers/vendors under mass or individual contracts. 0000037574 00000 n 0000027315 00000 n 0000011188 00000 n F.A.P. 1948 = 4. reference books that display proof marks and their meanings. 1860 Army Engraved Black Powder Revolver .44 cal Blued. All that tells is that it was made in Italy in 1976. This will be an on going Not common but very neat. The same rulses are more or less applied today. In 2012, Navy Arms now operated by Val Forgett III, temporarily suspended the importation side of the business. 0000006823 00000 n On our website you can find manufacturers and suppliers of guns and ammo from all world. Gun Barrel Proof Marks. 0000013204 00000 n 0000008871 00000 n startxref Armourers marks are quite distinct from proof-marks, and comprise the private marks, ciphers, stamps, or signatures of the individual armourers or gunsmiths. 0000004954 00000 n be reproduced, in part or in whole, without the written permission of '. the examiner in determining the caliber designation of a military 0000001791 00000 n 0000007017 00000 n manufactured firearms, such as pistols from Spain and Italy, will list a The most visible change is the change from a crown to a star 1950 so crown and PSF is from the time between 1923 and 1950. Established in 1960 by Knight Giuseppe Pietta, the company first entered the world of gun-making by producing hunting guns, including side-by-side and over and under shotguns. jh-@^z^gq}$g=@(M B{)C[ H|TMs0+Vcv~$C4=[Yb$9?dowy3YY^TO~&nV;r6gReI LiFZj2C&-zR` These two, and sometimes the makers private mark, may be found on many old weapons. VoEE&.i=Gjry&M9s PpIC9EeX Italian Date Codes. PROOF MARKS: ITALIAN PROOF MARKS, cont. 0000004861 00000 n :idunno: I know it of recent manufacture since Pietta began making this particular model only in recent years. Board Of There are typically three stamped mark on every italian made black powder rifle, shotgun and revolver. C.-{.-~Q~vVW?[.aMF^fV?4J/:50fb0L@w6l=lMaCFnO,ta#ip:xCr3A?Z[Hi6? 0000002659 00000 n 0000028135 00000 n Joined Mar 2, 2020 0000027918 00000 n Parisa cipher of E. and P. set back to back (as shown below). These traditional single-shot, rolling block, trapdoor, and slide- and lever-action . 0000051690 00000 n xb``b``` @16 l-,8sh-[1%3*.\ M=S!b6B>&X=ME#e*U3\'VC~Aa1 &w"2))vttgh \4 Tb@Rj hd`@ )fc``T v`#l> ^1?Y,Zi;?I+OT)po=|:U:EK{ mg`r#w /r] since 1951 Gardone & Brescia 1st black powder proof PROOF MARKS: ITALIAN PROOF MARKS, cont. August 19, 2012, 10:13 AM #8: MogrenE. The "PN" are the initials for "polere nera" or black powder. Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. 0000080518 00000 n The barrel and cylinder are blued steel. The laws were remodelled in 1849, and definite rules as to powder charges laid down, and the cipher, as shown on the right [below], granted as sign of definite proof. Remington New Army 1858 as copied by the Confederate Army during the Civil War. SPANISH PROOF MARKS PROOF MARKS: SPANISH PROOF MARKS, cont.PROOF MARK CIRCA . 0000003080 00000 n Birmingham had also a proof, but this test was not obligatory, and makers evaded the tests. 0000120205 00000 n Anyone have the latest date codes? Large quantity of surplus guns and exotic guns, 155MM HE 107 Full Zone 8 Charge with Electronic Fuze, BA 312 Semi-Auto Magazine Tube Tactical Shotgun, BA 912 Bullpup Mag-Fed Semi-Auto (2 Different Mold). )9/q3YgYHH}c. I have searched for this site but can't find it. 22 0 obj << /Linearized 1 /O 25 /H [ 1485 306 ] /L 118117 /E 82195 /N 2 /T 117559 >> endobj xref 22 45 0000000016 00000 n No specifications as to the bullet. 0000108581 00000 n 0000012820 00000 n We have provided you Most specimen marks are of this nature, and it is no unusual thing to find the marks of two different smiths upon the same weapon, one man signing the lock work, the other being the barrel maker. NRA Life Patron, US Navy 1967-2001; Vintage motorcycle racing, restoring; CAS; Trap; Skeet; US&World History; Work DoD weapons R&D. My feeling is you have a Walker copy someone made look old. Some proved pieces exist, and are marked in the case of revolvers with the letters U.S., in the case of other arms with the letters V.P. 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Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to 0000004035 00000 n From left to right: year of manufacture, Gardone V.T. Misc. Next is the mark which has "PN" - the Gardone & Brescia 1st Black Powder Proof mark used since 1959. 0000105108 00000 n 1968 = XXIV. 0000004871 00000 n 1810 -> Liege. Recalling that I'd typically shot 30 grains through my Italian 1860 Army, I velocity-tested the Colt with 19 grains, 25 grains, and 30 grains. In this video I'll. So, what follows is a photo library of many of the various Black Powder Proofmarks, Date Codes, Importer, Distributor and Manufacturer's Marks to help with identifying the manufacturer of your revolvers, pistols or rifles. 0000012553 00000 n I have a older or what looks to be older blacke powder revolver that i have purchased. THINGS THAT GO BANG! The cylinder is marked with the Gardone and black powder proof marks and displays a reproduction of the 1843 Navel battle scene typically found on Colt C1860 Army revolvers. 0000064406 00000 n SPANISH PROOF MARKS PROOF MARKS: SPANISH PROOF MARKS, cont. It prompted me to get up and check when my guns were made. 0000010034 00000 n 0000014945 00000 n CF - 2010. Also has pn with shield on cylinder. Post request for quotation and get multiple offers from manufacturers. . The well-known Waffenamt Nazi symbol was actually a military acceptance mark, and not a proof mark. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Starting price $549. 0 0000092657 00000 n Genuine Parker-Hale barrel markings - roll marks and proof stamps, A Comparison: The Zouave and the Mississippi, This is from the Colorado State Muzzle Loading Association [cont], This is from the Colorado State Muzzle Loading Association Journal. Enjoy the thrill of shooting a gun from the Old West and experience how history repeats itself. A PDF link to Dennis Adler's article about Italian Black Powder Proof marks is given below. ix)]'Aa-;O;KGg 6+Rg^vF$^og>XxZaNz:E Gun Proof Marks, Stamps and Date Codes . trailer << /Size 67 /Info 20 0 R /Root 23 0 R /Prev 117549 /ID[<3013820267cc20c18f38ceb2ef54c0c3>] >> startxref 0 %%EOF 23 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 19 0 R /Metadata 21 0 R /AcroForm 24 0 R >> endobj 24 0 obj << /Fields [ ] /DR << /Font << /ZaDb 16 0 R /Helv 17 0 R >> /Encoding << /PDFDocEncoding 18 0 R >> >> /DA (/Helv 0 Tf 0 g ) >> endobj 65 0 obj << /S 98 /V 209 /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 66 0 R >> stream <<9CAB7C9ADE9DBB4DB23FAD02FA255802>]>> Good info. A picture of your revolver uploaded from your files would provide the other clues as to what specific model you have. 0000052569 00000 n Powered by Invision Community. I've got some recent guns and you have extrapolated the Date Codes exactly right. 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